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I was looking around for panniers for ages and although I've had hard panniers previously, wanted to dry soft panniers. I was looking all over the place but found these online for $300 and am really happy with them - waterproof, tough, look and feel like good quality. I just coulnd't sanction to spend the same amount of money and the soft panniers NOT be wwaterproof. They also come with the inner liners too so that you can just carry bags around and then plop them in. They took about 20 mins to attach onto the rack, but very happy all in all.